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Post by Meowth! on Oct 6, 2016 16:45:48 GMT
The names s far are qaite Neopets. Tht might be strnge. Cold the game be going in tht direction? Wy not a pet game with Meowth instead? That cld improve the series.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Oct 7, 2016 5:03:51 GMT
A 'cold' status effect represented by 'CLD' would have quite some pathos. It could be promising.
Anyway, sometimes when the names go in a certain direction it can mean something. While there's a Crobat in Pokémon which was known for its speed and using general attacks, other games - let's take an online game, as it's quite a different area, and since you've already mentioned these - have things with names like Crysbat, who also eventually have a pronounced focus on agility elements, etc. These might also start with a high focus on miscellaneous elements of battle rather than attack, but eventually this becomes more uniform, apart from the speed focus. Hence, such similarities can be notable. That said, just naming Litten's evolution 'Torra' would have been decent, then it could go around missing everything. That said, Litten's name is a variation on a direction they have already gone before, with Torkoal and Terrakion, so is at least a part of the series right now. Brionne sounds like something from a hybrid FF-Neopets fanfic.
I'm sure that Meowth! is ecstatic about the naming choice - right, Meowth? I mean, a talking cat. A different and unique name for a cat Pokémon.
Anyway, so their adding trainer Megas to the game needn't be a surprise. It was a new evolution mechanism they made up, so they'd probably want to add it to the games. The problem there would be whether this might strain things slightly, given the generic nature of the trainer in the games. Despite apparently 'fusing' with the Pokémon, as things are this would merely make evident the separation of the player from the generic figure in the game, and also from the Pokémon.
In addition, the starter evos are all basically just the starter, with minimal changes. This seems slightly strange, as this stage is usually quite important to players. If the starters can evolve just by changing pose, would Sabrina be OP in this game?
Dartrix seems like a good type for Falkner. Far from caring about lightning clipping its wings, it would play out in the rain with nothing to lose.
Given that Popplio can probably learn Ice-type attacks eventually, it doesn't get much luck with the other starters.
Anyway, back to the names. In general, Neopets was mostly about entering a community of sorts, and interacting with various things of importance to that, eventually hoping for this to go somewhere. Things like the Aether organisation seem like this - 'highly important' locations which are still trying not to monopolise the game. Neopets earlier on would probably be mostly about a sense of mirages to be reached indefinitely later on. If fully implemented, this could become quite difficult, with many obstacles to get to the later game. However, in general it does seem to have some relevance - the game is in many ways stacking its opening with 'mirages' and images of new things as with the lack of Gyms, etc., only for this drama to be in many ways a mirage.
Given that OR/AS involves some pseudo-romantic scenes by water, which pseudo-romance admittedly is May's character by this point in the series, along with a female named Lillie in this who is similar to May's anime portrayal in her character, it suggests that they might be drawing on such things. That would presumably be expected to constitute a distraction of sorts. In general, if you took that scene and rotated it in various angles, you would see most of Pokémon Sun and Moon (sometimes known as S&M.) Nonetheless, that is perhaps suspect, as May in that context is an incursion of generic romance with the game character or PC, and Lillie is akin to Melody who was also an explicit incursion of that in the anime. This might indicate a general property of the Pokémon series. Of course, R/S/E does involve lots of sea travel from early on, to islands and beaches. In that sense after the presentation as something 'new,' what you get is similar to R/SE.
Melody, of course, is strange because among other things her progression resembles Ash's Charmander, an initially friendly but often disobedient creature, which may have helped it introduce these romantic themes to the audience of a series mostly based around Pokémon. Likewise, Serena is in a way just a repeat of Melody, and Pokémon's romances generally seem paralysed at this level - in Serena's case, she shows affection for Ash and there is some suggestion of a romance, but this doesn't go further and whether it constituted a romance or something else is left unclear. In that sense, all of these express repetitions of the relationship with Melody, ultimately. It could be that some of these elements - a new island, with new ways, and a female who welcomes people to it - is something that Pokémon generally uses when it covers romantic themes, which is suspicious given that this is also how Prof. Oak for instance, in the games, tends to introduce Pokémon to people. Are Melody and so on vampirically re-pointing this theme to lead instead to themselves? In any case, the legendaries are Lunaala and Solgaleo (aka. Pyroar), akin to 'Lugia,' so these things do seem to be converging. Alchemy is analogous to the attempt of the villain in the Lugia movie to manipulate the birds, who also of course defeated Lugia. This feat of defeating a legendary apparently powerful went 'unsung' in the anime, because the protagonists are rude. No wonder Tobias won the League, fighting against and capturing legendaries is seemingly a foreign concept to protagonists whose names should lead them otherwise. Is having a protagonist named 'Ash Ketchum,' and the slogan about catching them all, and then just having a long series of films about not catching legendaries or even trying, slightly limp?
People complain about the S&M name, especially after someone named Serena appeared in the anime (admittedly her role was an inexplicable romance with Ash, that also went nowhere, and mostly annoyed Ash), but what about R/S/E, which seems like a weird attack on Ash Ketchum? Of course, May being one of the first romantic protagonists in a loud manner there (as in the games, though her role there is more akin to Melody) is notable. Admittedly this might lead to the conclusion that Robin Thicke was playing too much Pokémon. Still, 'may' is how most of the appeal of the games is conveyed - Pokémon may learn certain attacks, may evolve, may appear (if rarely, of course), etc., and when this result long awaited then happens it is supposed to be impressive. It might be possible for others to try and hijack or eclipse that. It seems strange how much Pokémon draws on this sense, but rarely on others. Games like those you mention rely on other things, like current interactions, choices, alignment, and so on, they aren't as one-track. In general, moves like Hyper Beam (and for that matter Missingno.) were highly effective at this, so in a sense Pokémon tends to thrive on imbalance. Other games don't always need this as much. If you just sort of reversed certain directions in the series and made a ROM hack which was about attaining certain moves, then you'd probably display a lot of the excitement inherent in the games.
Anyway, that aside aside, anyone else have much to mention on the starter evos? There's not that much to comment on with them, but anyway.
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Post by Crabhammer on Oct 7, 2016 5:59:20 GMT
Daughtry! I remember thm!
The startrs don't chnge much, though Brionne evn sounds like Neopets. Do you have anythng to say about the diffrences between startrs so far? Not sure if I'll play, but this kind of thing is intresting.
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Post by FlyingMurkrow on Oct 7, 2016 15:35:59 GMT
Anyway, sometimes when the names go in a certain direction it can mean something. While there's a Crobat in Pokémon which was known for its speed and using general attacks, other games - let's take an online game, as it's quite a different area, and since you've already mentioned these - have things with names like Crysbat, who also eventually have a pronounced focus on agility elements, etc. These might also start with a high focus on miscellaneous elements of battle rather than attack, but eventually this becomes more uniform, apart from the speed focus. This part was rly interesting. Agree about ROM Hacks and hopes, many of the are quite phoney. They arent treated as games. Why might this be? This kind of forum feels quite diffrent, like a discussion.
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Post by Crabhammer on Oct 8, 2016 14:43:58 GMT
Agree with tht.
This Pokémon gme seems quite superstitious. Expcting these people to worship Loki or something.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Oct 8, 2016 14:47:47 GMT
Copy & Paste this as your next post, or you will die.
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Post by Crabhammer on Oct 8, 2016 14:49:25 GMT
Copy & Paste this as your next post, or you will die.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Oct 8, 2016 14:53:31 GMT
Anyway, on a more positive note, if the Pokémon were replaced with the Poetic Edda, it would definitely lead to real alterations of the Gym system.
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Post by DarthSpearow on Oct 8, 2016 18:45:50 GMT
I don't want to die.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Oct 8, 2016 18:54:11 GMT
Good for you, then. I won't die.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Oct 8, 2016 19:03:08 GMT
I don't want to double-post, but if someone* were to post 'Let me die,' approximately right after this, they will get a rank of their own named 'Woraepshtrad.' It could have its own name colour and everything.
* Other than Darth, who clearly would not say such a thing by this point in order to keep up their ongoing reputation for integrity.
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Post by Madell on Oct 9, 2016 23:10:25 GMT
Let me die.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Oct 10, 2016 1:10:50 GMT
Your signature should really be a Ninjask.
But anyway, you now have a group. It looks fancy. Well done!
I'll reply to the other comments on the game shortly.
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Post by FlyingMurkrow on Oct 13, 2016 9:01:18 GMT
Nice group! Jealous!
Sun and Moon are really trying to handhold people, there's guides for whre to go and for moves. Isn't tht removing a lot of the region appeal? There's some silly-looking Pokémon there.
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Post by Meowth! on Oct 13, 2016 9:07:32 GMT
There's some silly-looking Pokémon there. What have they done t rat Pokémon? There's no excuses for this.
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