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Post by DiglettReturns on Mar 24, 2018 17:30:22 GMT
Don't the Unown also have a weird radio signal?
They probably infiltrated the area, they have key-cards and replacement rolles. Why didn't they use the Gyarados, however?
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Post by Crabhammer on Mar 25, 2018 3:37:05 GMT
Don't the Unown also have a weird radio signal? They probably infiltrated the area, they have key-cards and replacement rolles. Why didn't they use the Gyarados, however? Apparently the Gyarados are just to check stuff. You're right, it's weird that they don't attempt to catch any of the creature when they make it common... They could use one.
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Post by Onixsan on Mar 27, 2018 21:07:09 GMT
Their plot-line is so grating, also all of the underground paths... All of that to stop Gyarados appearing! This Magikarp signal is interesting, did no-one revive it? I'm sure lots of people would like that.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Jun 23, 2018 23:39:19 GMT
Their plot-line is so grating, also all of the underground paths... All of that to stop Gyarados appearing! This Magikarp signal is interesting, did no-one revive it? I'm sure lots of people would like that. Well, seemingly Team Rocket couldn't revive it later. No-one else seems to have wanted it. Perhaps they're still taken aback by Team Rocket's use of it. You're right that the Team Rocket plot-line is grating. To be fair, that is much of the pre-Kanto game. Johto is a fascinating region, yet doesn't seem to do as much with its traditional or eerie aspects as it could. The path left from Viridian has always seemed weird in R/B. There aren't many people or events there, apart from the rival battle. You can't enter the Elite 4 area yet. So you mostly have a stretch of land to walk around on. The fight there can easily ambush and overwhelm you unless you've trained - and you aren't explicitly told that training would be necessary. The League won't allow you through yet. It's a weird case of the game deciding to throw in a Route which is seemingly mostly an early ambush. That will reprise, however. The rival ends up surprising you by rounding out the 'Elite 4' (or 5, as it happens.) So in that sense the Route is quite poignant when it comes to the Elite 4 destination. The early ambush is still a slight shift in tone, however. The Psychic types can also have some zany moves. 'Dream Eater' and 'Nightmare' have a psychological dimension which is perturbing. Also, what are your Pokémon dreaming of? When it comes to the ghosts, it seems fair that an item can help you deal with them. It helps if you accidentally threw a Master ball at one of them. You found the ghosts, and in battle they are quite exposed to anything you wish to try on them. The OP is right, it is slightly eerie that the doll from next door solves the problem. 'Coincidences' can be weird when ghosts are involved.
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Post by Crabhammer on Jun 24, 2018 0:06:36 GMT
I found the path left from Viridian quite a jumpscare tbh.
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Jun 24, 2018 15:13:35 GMT
When it comes to the Pokémon world resembling the 'usual world,' the creatures do as well. Perhaps people organise themselves in familiar ways despite the Pokémon. What do you guys reckon happened to the Cold War? Russia and the USA are the main nations mentioned, could their history still influence things? However, perhaps they aren't as much of a focus - they aren't omnipresent, although seemingly they are prominent enough to mention. I found the path left from Viridian quite a jumpscare tbh. PIDGEY used GUST!
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Post by Crabhammer on Jun 25, 2018 23:17:23 GMT
SAVE ME!
The Pokémon game relation to the world might be due to simpler similarities, but I still like the mysteriousness of it...
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Jun 30, 2018 18:54:09 GMT
SAVE ME! The Pokémon game relation to the world might be due to simpler similarities, but I still like the mysteriousness of it... I agree somewhat. I noted the strangeness of the Tunguska mention. That occurred near a suspiciously named river, so it might not be accidental that it ends up there. I suppose that the main question is the 'game world' or region, and how it might relate to the world we inhabit. Further, it would then seem to reflect a stage in the history of our world. It is probably related to a historical divergence, which might be related to the Tunguska event. History followed a path different to that from which we expect. Despite this, the world is related to our world. However, the areas involved reflect a new world of strange, fighting creatures which we may adventure in. It seems like a foreign world. Perhaps some new force of sorts appeared which motivated this strange creature, and disturbed the usual order of the world. A new kind of creature becomes necessary, to reflect this situation. However, they are typically thrown into a conflict where they use their psychic and innate natural powers freely in attacks. This can make the wild a threatening place. The main nations mentioned were America and Russia, with Tunguska being the place associated with one significant event. Later Russian events, like Chernobyl with its mutating effect, also have the same kind of aura. The other nation mentioned is 'America,' via the 'lightning American' Surge. Russia and America were often in conflict, so it is interesting that they appear in a world of conflict. Hence, it seems like the region is portrayed as a part of the historical progression of the world. However, it also seems like a strangely changed world, with the wildlife that we are used to being displaced by the alien 'Pokémon.' The Pokémon have mysterious powers which we do not associate with creatures on earth. The land of Pokémon hence seems to arise from a somewhat severe shift. It is a world which is quite threatening at times, with Pokémon seeming required to journey in some routes safely. Perhaps some kind of change, like Tunguska, meant that a new kind of creature spread by trying to adapt to a new way of life. People are faced with an aggressive new world, albeit one which they can also have a part in. Even plants have seemingly decided now to mutate into fighting creatures. You are confronted with a difficult journey, then keep going. Yet through this the psychic and supernatural powers of the Pokémon remain mysterious. (This is concerning weird parts, so try to focus on discussing possible relations of the Pokémon world to others. To discuss the world of Pokémon generally, feel free to start a thread.)
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Post by Meowth! on Jun 30, 2018 19:35:21 GMT
Good summary.
I find the Tunguska connection interesting... You're right, Pokémon do behave like mystical creatures!
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Post by Lapras on Jun 30, 2018 19:37:58 GMT
There was a lot of weird stuff in Russia then... There are myths that the recent collision (I forget where) caused weird glowing to appear later in the sky. The games also have a damaged Power Plant like Chernobyl... In fact Mewtwo is also like that
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Post by v)Luminesce(v on Jun 30, 2018 20:44:41 GMT
Certainly. It does seem to channel such an atmosphere.
Pokémon act more human-like than usual creatures, and are often tamed by humans in order to channel the special 'powers' of Pokémon. Hence, Pokémon can act as if an extension of the person.
The use of abilities like Dream Eater in fights might seem strange, however projects like MKULTRA did seemingly consider the military nature of covert mental influence and manipulation. The USSR is also said to have considered such methods. It is said that Pokémon aided in war (by Surge), so perhaps that helps.
Hence, despite the familiar nations a strange situation is displayed. This is akin to the mysterious Russian events you mention.
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Post by Crabhammer on Jun 30, 2018 20:51:08 GMT
I agree with the comparison to things like Tunguska.
I think that they are closely related worlds.
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Post by DiglettReturns on Jun 30, 2018 21:00:20 GMT
I agree, the proximity of Pokémon to our world is mysterious...
Any further thoughts on the radio signal?
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Post by Litten on Jun 30, 2018 21:25:41 GMT
I agree, the proximity of Pokémon to our world is mysterious... Any further thoughts on the radio signal? 'It's like a death becomes musical. It's musical.'
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